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    Lost media is always fascinating for the "what could have been" factor. You never know what hidden gems are still out there. The most famous lost movie is easily the Day The Clown Cried but soon the world will know, we just gotta' wait 10 years. Then after that there's London After Midnight. But for me, one of the more interesting ones is Alberto Cavallone's Maldoror.

    Alberto Cavallone was an Italian exploitation/art house (kinda) director whose' most famous film was Blue Movie (no affiliation with the Warhol picture) which was kind of an art house porno. His other films could be described in that way. I've seen 3 of his films and Blue Movie was the most interesting for me.

    Maldoror was a book written around 1868 and whose author Issidore Ducasse (under the pen name Lautreamont) died shortly after release. The book was really discovered around the 1920's by the Surrealists and is considered to be one of the biggest influences to the movement and Lautreamont is considered to be one of the forefather's of Surrealism. Influencing everyone from Salvador Dali to Goddard. The book is a poetic novel about a being named Maldoror who may or may not be a fallen angel, a vampire, a shape-shifter, or just a lonely young man. The book is notable for it's prose, consistently shifting perspective, and passages of extreme violence and blasphemy. In short, perfect material for someone like Cavallone. Unfortunately, Cavallone's Maldoror was shown at film festivals, never picked up, and has been considered lost ever since. Some stills have emerged but so far that's been it.

    Another one I found out about in the last year or so is a zombie flick called Dead End: http://obscurityandbeyond.blogspot.c...-end-1985.html

    That article sums up the quest behind that film very nicely. But unlike other lost films, there are claims that some have seen it with pretty in depth descriptions. Few mention the "infamous" scene of a zombie baby crawling back inside it's mother.
    Alex K.
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    Last edited by Alex K.; 12-26-2015, 10:25 PM.
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    Polsellis Mania is the big one for me. Reviews keep turning up but as no one is saying where they saw it I assume they're all fake.
    "Never let the fact that they are doing it wrong stop you from doing it right." Hyman Mandell.

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    • #3
      Agreed on Mania! Locandinas were made (I own one. It's beautiful. Had it framed) and there's an awesome trailer on Youtube. There also exists a photo novel of it (it's posted on the lovelocknload forum) If I was a millionaire I would devote serious time and money into locating a decent print, restoring and making a blu-ray.

      Polselli was a fascinating director. I only have Black Magic Rites on blu, Delirium on dvd (should get a blu upgrade) and the INSANE but awesome Oscenita on italian unsubtitled dvd. I would love to see more of his filmography released.
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      • #4
        Nice topic! I was under the impression that Dead End was universaly considered an elaborate hoax. Very good article you linked to, and interesting that one of the people who comment claims he saw the film on VHS years back, sort of convincingly even.

        The lost film I most want to see i Murnau's legendary Four Devils, his second film in Hollywood and apparently one of his best. Hard to swallow that a film by one of the world's most famous directors at the time, released by Fox, a major Hollywood studio, probably a film with a wide release considering the success of Sunrise, can have vanished off the face of the earth. But vanished it has.

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        • #5
          The Holly Woodlawn obscurity "Scarecrow in a Garden of Cucumbers," read somewhere that only a partial print exists.

          The infamous Jesus themed gay porn "Him." Hope there's a print of this lying around somewhere.

          Not precisely lost, but rarely screened and probably unlikely to be released on video, the trepanation how-to short film "Heartbeat in the Brain."

          Lost Jess Franco films "sex charade", and "de Sade's Juliette" which includes a scene where a hanged man is fellated and an ending where the heroine shoots herself in the vagina. Re-edited into a later film "Justine" by Joe D'Amato

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          • #6
            I wonder if Scream Evelyn, Scream! has been ever shown anywhere?
            http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt3616910/
            http://templeofschlock.blogspot.fi/2...se-file-2.html

            I would not even know about the movie but the writer/director (Robert H. Hensley) once contacted me as he is also known as Bob Henry, the main actor in the spaghetti western Una colt, in pugno al diavolo.

            Unfortunately I am not sure if I have the short email exchange saved anywhere anymore and I can't remember much. I'm pretty sure he said he directed at least one other movie but I can't remember the name of that one... that movie was never shown either. I have a feeling I was able to find an ad for the movie back then which had his name on it but... I think at least one of the movies was never shown because of some sort of legal issue.

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            • #7
              I'm fairly convinced that Dead End does not exist. No one can pinpoint the actors or crew (and there are many...) associated with the film (aside from the 'director'), nor any of the two-dozen or so projects that these people have worked on from the 70's/80's/and early 90's. Considering the amount of movies they made I'm sure we would have heard about a few of them by now.

              Also I believe the IMDB entry used to be an Alien Movie in it's place before it was switched to Dead End.
              Terry C
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              Last edited by Terry C; 12-27-2015, 09:56 PM.

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              • #8
                http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3736022/reference

                This guy pops up in my local paper about once a year, claiming to be on the verge of success, and has been doing so for at least 7 years. Thus far though, none of his imdb entries seem to have ever been actually made, excluding one or two shorts which have been shown in festivals and then forgotten about.

                I find it quite poor on behalf of the journalists that none of them have bothered to ask this weirdo if he actually is gonna get something made, or if he is just going to continue hyping himself until hell freezes over. I was really looking forward to his Steven Seagal film, but that seems to have not materialized like everything else he touches.
                "No presh from the Dresh!"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Silly Swede View Post
                  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3736022/reference

                  This guy pops up in my local paper about once a year, claiming to be on the verge of success, and has been doing so for at least 7 years. Thus far though, none of his imdb entries seem to have ever been actually made, excluding one or two shorts which have been shown in festivals and then forgotten about.

                  I find it quite poor on behalf of the journalists that none of them have bothered to ask this weirdo if he actually is gonna get something made, or if he is just going to continue hyping himself until hell freezes over. I was really looking forward to his Steven Seagal film, but that seems to have not materialized like everything else he touches.
                  That page looks so fake. I have found a few other people who's pages are filled with obviously made up films. I guess they hope somebody will hire them just by checking their credits on IMDB. The DEAD END item is interesting since Emerson Bixby does have some real credits but it's odd that a 1985 film would disappear, but it could happen.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Silly Swede View Post
                    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3736022/reference

                    This guy pops up in my local paper about once a year, claiming to be on the verge of success, and has been doing so for at least 7 years. Thus far though, none of his imdb entries seem to have ever been actually made, excluding one or two shorts which have been shown in festivals and then forgotten about.

                    I find it quite poor on behalf of the journalists that none of them have bothered to ask this weirdo if he actually is gonna get something made, or if he is just going to continue hyping himself until hell freezes over. I was really looking forward to his Steven Seagal film, but that seems to have not materialized like everything else he touches.
                    Seems like PERFECT WEAPON with Seagal has finished filming..

                    http://variety.com/2015/film/news/af...on-1201632545/

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                    • #11
                      I look forward to it! (If this guy indeed did finally come through).

                      As for long lost films, what of any films that were widely available but is now gone? Are there any?
                      "No presh from the Dresh!"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Silly Swede View Post
                        I look forward to it! (If this guy indeed did finally come through).

                        As for long lost films, what of any films that were widely available but is now gone? Are there any?
                        A website that has some interesting information on this is the "Lost Media Wiki." While there are dozens of major films from the twenties and thirties that are famously lost ("London After Midnight", "The Monkey's Paw", etc) , there are a few more recent examples of movies starring well-known actors that have disappeared.

                        A 1972 British horror film starring Ingrid Pitt, "Nobody Ordered Love", is supposedly totally lost and according to its star all of the prints were probably burned by the director.

                        Another recent one that has not been seen in decades is the 1969 Nabokov adaptation "Laughter in the Dark" starring Anna Karina, which has been pulled from circulation.

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                        • #13
                          I've had a wish to see HU-MAN ever since clips from it appeared on the BBC's SCENE BY SCENE WITH TERENCE STAMP back in 1997 or 1998.
                          'You know, I'd almost forgotten what your eyes looked like. Still the same. Pissholes in the snow'

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                          • #14
                            Temple of Schlock has a nice long list of 'endangered films' - those that had documented theatrical releases but have never shown up since in any form. They're a bit behind on updating it, haven't noted to Etiquette pics release of Catch My Soul for instance, but there's plenty of tantalising info there.

                            Personally I'd love to see the lost Andy Milligan films, the ones he made between Vapours and Nightbirds. Same goes for Michael Findlay's first film Body of a Female co-directed by John Amero and starring Roberta Findlay!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ignatius View Post
                              Temple of Schlock has a nice long list of 'endangered films' - those that had documented theatrical releases but have never shown up since in any form. They're a bit behind on updating it, haven't noted to Etiquette pics release of Catch My Soul for instance, but there's plenty of tantalising info there.

                              Personally I'd love to see the lost Andy Milligan films, the ones he made between Vapours and Nightbirds. Same goes for Michael Findlay's first film Body of a Female co-directed by John Amero and starring Roberta Findlay!
                              I remember the Jimmy McDonough's "The Ghastly One" mentioned Milligan's "The Filthy Five" as being of particularly high quality out of his lost films.

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