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I don't go to church. Kneeling bags my nylons.
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Death Valley (1982): Wow, pretty well made slasher picture with relatively high production values and above par acting. Featuring Wilford Brimley, Catherine Hicks, and the kid from Christmas Story. Pretty well done, decent body count with some gore, and it's overall really well done. 7/10"Ah! By god's balls what licentiousness!"
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Originally posted by Alex K. View PostDeath Valley (1982): Wow, pretty well made slasher picture with relatively high production values and above par acting. Featuring Wilford Brimley, Catherine Hicks, and the kid from Christmas Story. Pretty well done, decent body count with some gore, and it's overall really well done. 7/10I don't go to church. Kneeling bags my nylons.
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Teens are killed off one by one by a chainsaw/mallet/hook wielding killer in a mask, leading to 4 victims. It's just that the chase scene is prolonged after. You can think what you want, but watching it, I simply am in awe that TCM can be slogged off as not being a slasher. I didn't know the definition of slasher films was that you had to be ineffective and stick to a certain mood.
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Originally posted by Body Boy View PostTeens are killed off one by one by a chainsaw/mallet/hook wielding killer in a mask, leading to 4 victims. It's just that the chase scene is prolonged after. You can think what you want, but watching it, I simply am in awe that TCM can be slogged off as not being a slasher. I didn't know the definition of slasher films was that you had to be ineffective and stick to a certain mood.
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Originally posted by Body Boy View PostTeens are killed off one by one by a chainsaw/mallet/hook wielding killer in a mask, leading to 4 victims. It's just that the chase scene is prolonged after. You can think what you want, but watching it, I simply am in awe that TCM can be slogged off as not being a slasher. I didn't know the definition of slasher films was that you had to be ineffective and stick to a certain mood.
But you could think of it like this; it's kinda' like Maniac. It has elements of a Slasher but could also be considered a serial killer film. And I'm sure some critics considered Henry to be a Slasher."Ah! By god's balls what licentiousness!"
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Originally posted by Robert W View PostI think one of the reasons TCM isn't more often discussed when the topic of slashers come up is that, unlike almost every film made in this genre, TCM simply rises, in terms of sustained atmosphere, far above what most genre enthusiasts have come to expect out of films like these.
Originally posted by Alex K. View PostThe tone and execution is very different. Slashers don't have that documentary quality.
But you could think of it like this; it's kinda' like Maniac. It has elements of a Slasher but could also be considered a serial killer film. And I'm sure some critics considered Henry to be a Slasher.
Maniac though, while a character study, kills people off one-by-one in a stalking manner where Frank Zito is now perceived as an 'other', though we usually see him as the main character.
However, I don't think that TCM '74 has a documentary feel at all. It's very obviously a movie. The tone is gritty, but so is Nightmare in a Damaged Brain. It's shot from the point-of-view as Friday the 13th or Halloween is, aka, standard movie procedure, and we see a final girl's friends killed off one-by-one by a killer. I don't really see how tone affects the events happening. The term 'slasher' is very much a plot-based identity, with some details differentiating from closely related subgenre.
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Originally posted by Body Boy View PostBut that's not logical. :( And I think that the case for strong atmosphere can be made for other films too that are very much slashers. But yeah, it could be that people have certain expectations. Like with Silence of the Lambs. Horror had a bad rap in 1991, so they called it a thriller for the awards shows.
Just because most Slashers are not high quality doesn't mean that they can't be. I'd also say that A Nightmare on Elm Street has a different feel than most other Slashers (The whole surreal quality throughout the film) and I would say that it's still a Slasher Film, though NOT JUST a Slasher if you catch my drift. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the matter here. :)
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Last edited by Alex K.; 05-30-2017, 03:59 PM."Ah! By god's balls what licentiousness!"
Marquis de Sade, The 120 Days of Sodom.
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A few nights ago, I rewatched PRANKS (aka THE DORM THAT DRIPPED BLOOD/DEATH DORM) for the first time since the days of VHS. (I bought the Synapse Blu-ray release when it came out but hadn't bothered watching it till this week.) This meant that I had forgotten most of the narrative and was going into the picture almost 'cold' (though could vividly remember fragments of the kill scenes). The pacing's a little screwy and the dialogue scenes are shot in a very 'fat' manner, but I found Joanne immensely likeable, and it's a shame that this seems to be the only credit for Laurie Lapinski. I was pleased with the extra grue. (This was 'new' to the Synapse presentation and worked very effectively - especially the drill murder.)
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But, boy, that ending is a potent one, and utterly bleak with it. A lot of classic-era slasher pictures had ambiguous endings or endings which were somewhat open-ended, but the final scene of this picture is brutal. I think this has to be the most utterly downbeat ending of a classic-era slasher picture, or would anyone care to remind me of any others?'You know, I'd almost forgotten what your eyes looked like. Still the same. Pissholes in the snow'
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Originally posted by Paul L View Post]
But, boy, that ending is a potent one, and utterly bleak with it. A lot of classic-era slasher pictures had ambiguous endings or endings which were somewhat open-ended, but the final scene of this picture is brutal. I think this has to be the most utterly downbeat ending of a classic-era slasher picture, or would anyone care to remind me of any others?"Ah! By god's balls what licentiousness!"
Marquis de Sade, The 120 Days of Sodom.
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