Stephen King's IT on Blu-ray this October! (Merged)

[Mark Tolch Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mark Tolch]

Yeah, they had to "prove their love" to each other to overcome evil or some shit.


I guess there isn't a Hallmark card for every event.

[Matt H. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Matt H.]

After defeating It as children they get lost in the sewers and start to turn on each other, so the 'solution' is for the boys to all have sex with Beverly.

She has an orgasm with the two boys she loves, the fat kid (Ben?) and the writer-standin. After that they can then find their way out of the sewers. It is very clumsily done, to put it mildly. I feel it makes Beverly into a tool for the boys to 'bond' through and reduces her role to her sexuality.

But the sexism is probably secondary to the ichh factor and total break from believability and character behavior. Suddenly everyone is acting out what is either a too-literal metaphor or a gross sexual fantasy, depending on your reading. Either way King was clearly on way too much coke when he wrote it.

Thanks for explaining, Randy. That sounds pretty tasteless.

[agent999 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close agent999]

I was 13 when the book came out and didn't bat an eyelid at that stuff, but it's just draw droppingly inappropriate in retrospect. I also think that attitudes have moved on so fast: only the decade before there were rock stars fairly openly in relationships with girls of that age and in certain countries child porn had only just been banned. But still, surely his editors should have said something no matter how much carlos Stephen King was snorting at the time. I also think there are double standards with what you can get away with in books vs. films, possibly because fewer people read. I think if Naked Lunch were published today many critics would be falling over themselves to condemn it on moral grounds, but as it's an established classic from a time when this was an issue people either cared less or kept quiet about, it gets away with it.

[Mark Tolch Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mark Tolch]

Naked Lunch is probably a bad example...it was banned in lots of places and heavily edited due to US obscenity laws. As far as King and tasteless goes, I never really thought he was a tasteful writer, or even a good writer....he had his moments of brilliance, but so much of his material seems to be shocking just for the sake of being shocking.

[Randy G Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Randy G]

I don't know, when I read it as a kid I definitely got the creeps. Not sure people were somehow more okay with kid orgies in the 80s.

Naked Lunch is a different bird, I too am surprised how everyone claims to have read it and don't appear to have any issues with the repeated imagery of boys being hung and buggered but I think that can be chalked up to NL now being considered a 'classic' and the often hypocritical standards for 'literature' vs. popular writing.

But I don't think that's the case here, I've read my De Sade et al but this scene still comes across as gross and misjudged.

[Ian Jane Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Ian Jane]

There's a pretty cool audio interview with Tim Curry from a set report done in 1990 you can check out here:

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/34...ries-surfaced/

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[Alex K. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Alex K.]

I'm curious how much better this can be over the book and miniseries.

[Alison Jane Girl Boss Jane Find all posts View Profile Close Alison Jane]

No thanks.

[Alison Jane Girl Boss Jane Find all posts View Profile Close Alison Jane]

Maybe I take that back. This looks pretty great...

[Alex K. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Alex K.]

I was just about to post that. Damn you.

That said, it looks like it might be good. I like that it's set in modern times and will focus on just the kids... Not unless they plan on Lord of the Rings-ing this shit with a part 2 next year with the adults.

[Matt H. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Matt H.]

Not unless they plan on Lord of the Rings-ing this shit with a part 2 next year with the adults.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they're doing.

[Alex K. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Alex K.]

It would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall during the script meetings over the child orgy sequence.

Gary Daubman: so, about the child orgy scene...

Studio execs: fuck no!

Chase Palmer: but it was in the book...

Studio execs: FUCK NO!

(awkward silence for a few minutes because who honestly who wants to be that guy who fought to keep the child orgy scene)

[Ian Jane Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Ian Jane]

This is already getting repackaged with a few other King titles by WB in August.

[Alison Jane Girl Boss Jane Find all posts View Profile Close Alison Jane]

I looked at this thread title quickly and I thought it said "Stephen King's IT on Broadway."

That would be AMAZING!