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  • #16
    Originally posted by SuperDevilDoctor View Post
    Netflix simply sucks when it comes to MOVIES (cinema).
    Couldn't agree more. Netflix is great for stand-up comedy and that's about it.
    Why would anybody watch a scum show like Videodrome? Why did you watch it, Max?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Matt H. View Post
      Also wanted to add that I personally think most streaming services are for lazy film fans who settle for what's ever available instead of seeking out the good shit.
      Indeed, unadventurous viewers deserve to wallow in shit content. Sadly they're in the majority.
      I'm bitter, I'm twisted, James Joyce is fucking my sister.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mark Tolch View Post
        People who only watch new releases as suggested by their streaming service are only going to watch the newest most trending shit, anyway.

        Me? I'll take the availability of tens of thousands of films that I might not get the chance to see, otherwise.

        I get what Scorcese is saying, but it's kind of like bitching that there are too many people on the planet. There's fuck all you can do about it, so you adjust and find a way to make things work the best they can for you. Prior to this, it was bigass movie chains that didn't give a fuck about art or independent films unless they created enough of a buzz to turn a dollar. Look at the release listings from your local AMC or Cineplex or whatever for the last 10 years before Netflix and tell me about the wonders of the cinema and film as an art form. Not every town has an Alamo Drafthouse, and not everyone lives in the States or Europe where cult labels are putting out films on blu-ray for a reasonable price. I have the Criterion Channel, Prime, Netflix, Tubi, and Crave, and all of these cost me less than 2 Criterion blu-ray releases a month would. That being said, I do still buy physical media for titles I'll revisit, because of the quality and to support the industry.
        When people whine about theatres dying out, I think about the time I went to the Chinook Paramount theatre here in Calgary to see 16 screen listings, with 10 showing the same movie, three more showing a different movie, and the last 3 screens showing unique movies.

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        • #19
          Overly cynical or not, I think Scorsese is kind of counting his days and want to do whatever he can "for the spirit of cinema" to live on.

          I think it's a lost cause however - conglomerates rule the market, people in general don't seem to care what the hell they watch, cinema isn't the premium form of entertainment any more.

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          • #20
            As others have mentioned, the Scorsese article was mainly Martin's tribute to Federico Fellini. A valentine from one master filmmaker to another.

            Scorsese eloquently examines both how Fellini developed as a filmmaker as well as how the Maestro still influences him to this day. Of particular note is how Scorsese traces his career from Neo-Realism to the more phantasmagorical Director most know him as today.
            My great film schools Professors indulged me in my passion for linking Fellini's Neo-Realist screenplays (including Rossellini's PAISAN and ROME OPEN CITY) to his later work. I have always thought that DE-linking his early period (which also included his own film LA STRADA and I VITELLONI) from his more elaborate later films was too neat a break. To me, Fellini was still exploring the human spirit, but, his later work expanded from dreary day to day life to a person's inner dreams, illusions and psyche. Humans are as much about the subconscious as the conscious - the rational and irrational.
            It's a great article. Please read it in full. Grazie, Martin.

            Again, the full article is here: https://harpers.org/archive/2021/03/...rtin-scorsese/

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Matt H. View Post
              Also wanted to add that I personally think most streaming services are for lazy film fans who settle for what's ever available instead of seeking out the good shit.
              Check out Criterion Channel. It's full of the good shit. Anything is lazy if you don't want to put work into it. In the old days, you could walk into a video store and look at the new releases wall (and most did). You could go to a theatre and see the blockbuster and ignore the rest (and most did).
              Mark Tolch
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              Last edited by Mark Tolch; 02-19-2021, 09:19 PM.

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              • #22
                Or even if you knew what you wanted to watch you had to drive all over town and hope they carried the title, and hope it was in stock, and hope your VCR didn't eat the tape once you got home.
                "When I die, I hope to go to Accra"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Scott View Post
                  Or even if you knew what you wanted to watch you had to drive all over town and hope they carried the title, and hope it was in stock, and hope your VCR didn't eat the tape once you got home.
                  Has anyone ever found a rental they were excited about, got it home to find out it was the wrong tape, and the rental store was like, "Oh. Um....well" and that was that for you ever seeing that movie.

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                  • #24
                    Yes.

                    Remember waiting around the video store hoping someone would return the only copy of BACK TO THE FUTURE?

                    Remember when literally every single movie in the store was cropped and pan and scanned?! And all the foreign tapes were dubbed.

                    Remember how none of the video games came with instruction manuals.

                    Remember when porn was really expensive? Now it's our most abundant resource. And I don't have to go down to the creek to find it. Or wait around for someone to return the tape you want to jack to.
                    "When I die, I hope to go to Accra"

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Scott View Post
                      Yes.

                      Remember waiting around the video store hoping someone would return the only copy of BACK TO THE FUTURE?

                      Remember when literally every single movie in the store was cropped and pan and scanned?! And all the foreign tapes were dubbed.

                      Remember how none of the video games came with instruction manuals.

                      Remember when porn was really expensive? Now it's our most abundant resource. And I don't have to go down to the creek to find it. Or wait around for someone to return the tape you want to jack to.
                      I'm on my way to Arizona, you and I are going to do wonderful things together.

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                      • #26
                        We can go on a horse ride and eat fish tacos.
                        "When I die, I hope to go to Accra"

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                        • #27
                          I'm down

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by JoeS View Post
                            As others have mentioned, the Scorsese article was mainly Martin's tribute to Federico Fellini. A valentine from one master filmmaker to another.
                            Look, i've read the article. Reading the lines, there's also reading between the lines - if you think the article is only published for the sake of how you summarized it.. then I don't know what to say.

                            Seems like an amazing coincidence following last years Scorsese articles - the same topic is brought up here aswell. It's still a discussion of what once was (...and what isn't today). Capisce?

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                            • #29
                              Fortunately I don't need to rely on streaming because I've basically built my own video store in my home. Plus the libraries in Hamilton are amazing for the stuff I want to try before I buy.
                              Why would anybody watch a scum show like Videodrome? Why did you watch it, Max?

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                              • #30
                                If you go to your public library you can check out the entire works of Ernest Hemingway, a CD of Bach compositions, a BluRay of Goodfellas and the latest issue of National Geographic...

                                ...or you can check out a trashy romance novel, a CD of TV show themes, a DVD of America's Funniest Cat Videos and the latest Us Weekly magazine.

                                Does that mean public libraries diminish the value of some works by offering them up along side others that people consider to be less enriching?

                                The internet is a storage unit filled with all kinds of stuff, subjectively good and bad, and the people that seek out the good will get what they want and the people who only want the trash can get that too. There are people who subscribe to the Criterion Channel and nothing else and there are people who only watch Star Wars memorabilia unboxing videos on Youtube. Thoughtful people know how to balance the two.
                                Toyboy
                                like a hole in the head
                                Last edited by Toyboy; 02-21-2021, 04:35 PM.
                                Now everyone can have a complete KRULL lifestyle.

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