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  • No rape scene can be as horrific as the one in I Spit On Your Grave in fact most "rapes" in porn are not scary because the actresses in porn can't act and half the time they are smilling so it's not like something from a mainstream film like Lipstick where it's horrible and scary.

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    • Originally posted by Fundi View Post
      No rape scene can be as horrific as the one in I Spit On Your Grave in fact most "rapes" in porn are not scary because the actresses in porn can't act and half the time they are smilling so it's not like something from a mainstream film like Lipstick where it's horrible and scary.
      It was cut due to Meese Commission fears. Many sex films with non-consensual, bondage, and even killing sequences had chunks removed.

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      • Originally posted by Fundi View Post
        No rape scene can be as horrific as the one in I Spit On Your Grave in fact most "rapes" in porn are not scary because the actresses in porn can't act and half the time they are smilling so it's not like something from a mainstream film like Lipstick where it's horrible and scary.
        I'd respectfully disagree. I found the scene in I Spit on Your Scene long-winded, silly and boring. One of the actors clearly doesn't even have glass in his glasses.

        Whereas I've never seen any scene as disturbing as the Laura Cannon/Harry Reems scene in Forced Entry. It was so messed up I've never watched the film again, I don't feel the need to revisit something so unpleasant ever again.

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        • There is a movie that needs a good release from Vinegar Syndrome, Forced Entry. I will not buy stuff from After Hours Cinema, I bought a couple of DVD's a few years back, but they were of horrendous quality, "grindhouse" I don't want my films to look like they were pissed and shit on, not sure why After Hours Cinema thinks that is a good way to make their movies look, but I won't pay for films that a company makes look like shit on purpose. Someone here, can't remember who, also commented on this, and said that they rough up their films for DVD release on purpose so they can get some kind of copyright on it? Or I thought I read that on this forum. That's why I have never been disappointed in a Vinegar Syndrome release I have bought, I know that they did the very best they could with what they had to work with. I know not all classic porn can look like Gone With the Wind restored, but VS tries.

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          • Originally posted by Fundi View Post
            No rape scene can be as horrific as the one in I Spit On Your Grave in fact most "rapes" in porn are not scary because the actresses in porn can't act and half the time they are smilling so it's not like something from a mainstream film like Lipstick where it's horrible and scary.
            The one in IRREVERSIBLE is the worst.
            Why would anybody watch a scum show like Videodrome? Why did you watch it, Max?

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            • I never saw irreversible, anyone know if in Let My Puppets Come, there is any puppet on puppet rape? haha, I can't wait till that ships, what did they cut out to get that movie from 75 minutes down to 40 minutes lol, probably some pretty dirty puppet talk haha.

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              • Originally posted by Randy G View Post
                I found the scene in I Spit on Your Grave... boring.


                Originally posted by Matt H. View Post
                The one in IRREVERSIBLE is the worst.
                The worst.
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                • Call me desensitised, but unless I was knowingly watching a genuine rape (not that I have), then the 'it's only a movie' factor kicks in (although Death Wish freaked me out as a kid). Never understood the logic behind cutting this sort of thing from vintage porn flicks: if a rape scene in a porno gratifies some disturbed fucker enough not to do it in real life, that's a positive thing.
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                  Last edited by agent999; 07-24-2019, 10:51 AM.
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                  • Originally posted by Fundi View Post
                    I never saw irreversible, anyone know if in Let My Puppets Come, there is any puppet on puppet rape? haha, I can't wait till that ships, what did they cut out to get that movie from 75 minutes down to 40 minutes lol, probably some pretty dirty puppet talk haha.
                    I find the puppet design the creepiest thing about that movie (am I right in thinking that was down to Annie Sprinkle?). There used to be a puppet advert for pasta sauce in the UK, the puppets looked almost the same. Never purchased any of that sauce for fear of 'extra' ingredients...
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                    • Originally posted by agent999 View Post
                      Never understood the logic behind cutting this sort of thing from vintage porn flicks...
                      Maybe because many of these women were under the influence of drugs, etc. and it's a lot harder to be sure that it's consensual when activities such as rape are involved.

                      The men, too.
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                      • Originally posted by agent999 View Post
                        Call me desensitised, but unless I was knowingly watching a genuine rape (not that I have), then the 'it's only a movie' factor kicks in (although Death Wish freaked me out as a kid).
                        I get what you're saying here. It's almost like your brain protecting you from the trauma or something like that. I find the same thing happens when I'm watching something that's just stupidly sadistic (like AUGUST UNDERGROUND); it's like I'm distancing myself from the impact because it's just too much and sometimes I'll even start laughing if something is OTT mean.
                        Why would anybody watch a scum show like Videodrome? Why did you watch it, Max?

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                        • Originally posted by Alison Jane View Post
                          Maybe because many of these women were under the influence of drugs, etc. and it's a lot harder to be sure that it's consensual when activities such as rape are involved.

                          The men, too.
                          I hope/assume this is sarcasm rather than an implication that the actors in 70s/80s sex films were incapable of giving consent when appearing in scripted and staged-for-the-camera sex scenes, including rape scenes.

                          However, consent actually had little to do with the censorship, which was a reaction to Meese created paranoia that violence in sex films = creating rapists and perverts in 'real life.' The censorship was simply to reduce the risk of films with this content getting busted.

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                          • Originally posted by Randy G View Post
                            Whereas I've never seen any scene as disturbing as the Laura Cannon/Harry Reems scene in Forced Entry. It was so messed up I've never watched the film again, I don't feel the need to revisit something so unpleasant ever again.
                            This is going to sound horrible, but I thought FORCED ENTRY was funny; obviously the content is horrible, but I just couldn't take Harry Reems seriously as a sicko. The more horrific his dialogue got, the harder I was laughing. I still quote his oft-repeated voiceover of "Scummy hippies."
                            Why would anybody watch a scum show like Videodrome? Why did you watch it, Max?

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                            • Originally posted by Fundi View Post
                              There is a movie that needs a good release from Vinegar Syndrome, Forced Entry. I will not buy stuff from After Hours Cinema, I bought a couple of DVD's a few years back, but they were of horrendous quality, "grindhouse" I don't want my films to look like they were pissed and shit on, not sure why After Hours Cinema thinks that is a good way to make their movies look, but I won't pay for films that a company makes look like shit on purpose. Someone here, can't remember who, also commented on this, and said that they rough up their films for DVD release on purpose so they can get some kind of copyright on it? Or I thought I read that on this forum.
                              I have the After Hours DVD of Forced Entry and I will be pissed off if they've deliberately "roughed it up". Any one know it it's true?
                              I have a DVD of Fleshpot on 42nd Street that is that bad it must have been deliberately done, that's why I will be getting the new blu from VS.
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                              Last edited by Keith H; 07-24-2019, 01:40 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by John Lyons View Post
                                I hope/assume this is sarcasm rather than an implication that the actors in 70s/80s sex films were incapable of giving consent when appearing in scripted and staged-for-the-camera sex scenes, including rape scenes.
                                Not sarcasm. Not saying they were raped. Saying in the overly sensitive world we live in today such things might be deleted from fear of potentially being perceived that way.
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