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    Anthony A
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  • Anthony A
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    Originally posted by Lalala76 View Post
    Whatever happened to the alleged first Blu-ray from Distribpix Little oral Annie. I cant remember why that never came to fruition. I just stumbled upon the hd screengrabs on the Distribpix blog from 2010 and they look great.
    I bought the download awhile back and it looks fantastic! Don't know why the release never happened. If they ever do release it on Blu-ray I will definitely double dip.

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  • Lalala76
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  • Lalala76
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    Whatever happened to the alleged first Blu-ray from Distribpix Little oral Annie. I cant remember why that never came to fruition. I just stumbled upon the hd screengrabs on the Distribpix blog from 2010 and they look great.

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  • Fundi
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    4K is the future, that being said I still buy DVD's, and I don't have a 4K TV yet, but plan to get one soon. I will still buy DVD's and blu rays even with a 4K TV, if a movie I like is only on DVD, I'm not going to deny myself watching it because it's not on 4K, that'd be stupid to not watch a movie just because it's not on the newest format. But I don't like streaming and will never do it, it's too much trouble I tried it out, and di not like it at all. And if the movie world goes all streaming, I will probably not watch many movies, I'll just watch what's on regular TV. The problem with streaming is you have to subscribe to each movie company to get the films you want, and you end up with subscriptions all over the place costing way more than cable TV. And my internet has been sold to a new conglomerate or whatever you want to call it, and is about to implement bandwidth caps, so yeah streaming is not even an option for me anymore.

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  • Bogart
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  • Bogart
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    Originally posted by John Bernhard View Post
    They have created new discs for 4K...66 GB or 100 GB and a new codek to encode them with.
    Like Blu's, these 4K discs will hold a file a fraction of the original's size....it is pretty amazing technology.

    Pretty much every theatrical release is mastered at 2K.....4K's real advantage is to preserve the material for current and future use.
    As a home consumer product, I can't see it really taking off, as the majority of consumers are fine with DVD's.
    Thanks, yeah I was misunderstanding some of the earlier posts, I wasn't taking into account compression I guess I was unaware of it.

    Not sure if it will take off either mind you I laughed when they brought out Blu rays but I gradually succumbed..

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  • John Bernhard
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  • John Bernhard
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    They have created new discs for 4K...66 GB or 100 GB and a new codek to encode them with.
    Like Blu's, these 4K discs will hold a file a fraction of the original's size....it is pretty amazing technology.

    Pretty much every theatrical release is mastered at 2K.....4K's real advantage is to preserve the material for current and future use.
    As a home consumer product, I can't see it really taking off, as the majority of consumers are fine with DVD's.

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  • Fundi
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    4K discs use HEVC encoding it's much better than the H.264 they use on Blu rays, that's why you can get a much better picture even if you use a 50GB discs that is used for a blu ray.

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  • Bogart
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    In my simple mind, since you can fit a 1080p film plus extras on a 50GB disc, then a 4k film would need at most 4 x 50GB =200GB disc? And I think they achieve that now by dual layering the discs. Or maybe I am wildly inaccurate. I don't read much on this topic.

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  • enandalusiskhund
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  • enandalusiskhund
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    No, but you don't actually need 4K for your tv, unless it's over say 100". You have to sit with your nose to the screen in order to see pixels, and who does that? There are other advantages to 4k tech, but all I'm saying is tech companies will always try to sell in new and "better" stuff. If 4K tv is actually the last stop for consumer electronics, nobody would upgrade their tv every five years and Sony, Samsung and all the other tech giants would go out of business. There is no end point, it's the primal force of capitalism, the motor that keeps us consuming.

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  • Fundi
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    they show movies in the theater in 4K, you need more resolution for your TV, than they use in a movie theater?

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  • enandalusiskhund
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  • enandalusiskhund
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    Well a 4K Ultra HD disc is not the raw 4K scan. A full 4K transfer of a 90 min film source is 6TB of data. So the hardware companies still have many more generations of new and fancy tech to sell us. Also, resolution wise, to capture all of the resolution of a 35 mm frame, you need to scan in 6K. What I'm trying to say is that seeing Ultra HD discs as the end station for quality, is simply wrong. Ultra HD discs are heavily compressed from the 4K source scan.

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  • Fundi
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    why would you need 4K downloads in the HUNDREDS of GB's? a 4K blu ray discs is 50 to 100 GB in size? why would you need a HUNDREDS of GB's size ddownload? And those discs that are 50 to 100 GB have lots of extras as well. I think 4K discs will catch on, maybe not this year, but Blu Ray didn't catch on for a long time too, look how long it was before classic porn was first released on blu ray, was 5 or 6 years. When more and more people start getting 4K TV's, they will start picking up 4K disc players too when their old DVD players break and they go down to the store and they see the new 4K Blu ray players in the stores. I think 4K is going to be about as high of resolution as TV's can go, because 4K is equal to 35mm film, any further resolution gains will be pointless, sure they will make some changes and improvements always, but the 4K resolution is about maxed out. And the reviews I'm reading is that basically there is no benefit in 4K resolution over HD resolution, it's more in the HDR color improvements in going from 8 Bit, to 10 bit color. And some other improvements. I have seen 4K in the stores, and they do look awesome. I am not getting one until the Christmas sales start, and that's only if they have a good price on one, if not I'll wait for the 2017 models next year to see if they make any better models at a better price. 4k is still new, and it's improving every year. I must say though that eventually everyone will have a 4K TV, I mean I guess you could reject technology and stick to your CRT TV or something, but movies are my hobby, so I like to see them in the best quality I can, but I am also reasonable about it and won't spend huge sums of money on my set up, I rather spend that on the movies. I tend to wait till the tech is perfected and I'm waiting to see how this HDR 10, vs. Dolby VIsion sorts out.

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  • enandalusiskhund
    An Andalusian Dog

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    4K, as far as home video goes, is sadly stillborn. The userbase won't be there for another physical format, at least not to a large enough market to make it a viable option for smaller labels. Sure, Sony will try to push their new films on the format, but hoping stuff like Golden Age porn or anything even remotely interesting that isn't a major Hollywood studio production, will reach the format is just wishful thinking. Even BD came too late in the game to get the mainstream audience, the only thing keeping it afloat now is us cinemaphiles. Your average people don't care about quality. To them Netflix is fine, look it even says it's in HD!

    We will probably see applications for 4K TV technology in video games in the future, but I'll be very surprised if the disc format takes off. And 4K downloads, yeah maybe, but if I can take a guess It'll still be compressed as hell and comparable with BD upscaled to 4K. Kind of like how many hard compressed BD rips look like good DVD upscales. A 4K scan downscaled to BD 1080p looks amazing, but it you want true 4K video you're talking about file sizes in the hundreds of GB. It's not practical (yet). And for small labels it'll probably never be profitable.

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  • Lalala76
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  • Lalala76
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    Wonder how things are progressing with Scoundrels

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  • Fundi
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    does anyone know if Distribpix will offer a 4K download for sale of Scoundrels? I ask this because they are restoring the film in 4K, but if it's only on blu ray and dvd it will not of course be in 4K, but damn I'd love to be able to buy a 4K download of Scoundrels. I loved their HD release of Inside Little Oral Annie from AEBN.net. I wish they'd release more of their films on AEBN.net in HD and 2K/4K versions. I actually would prefer that to DVD/blu ray releases, and it would make it easier for Distribpix to get their films to market, and for the fans the films would be in much higher quality video and audio versions.

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  • Ignatius
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  • Ignatius
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    It's not a matter of what the discs cost consumers, but how much it costs to produce them. Given how young the format is I imagine licensing and production costs are through the roof - Blu-Ray is still expensive enough that companies like VS and Distribpix have to carefully choose which titles are going to sell enough to be worthwhile, and some smaller companies like Second Run in the UK are only just putting out their first Blu-Ray releases now.

    Besides, the uptake for 4K as a format right now must be miniscule, limited to early-adopters and enthusiasts only. I seriously doubt there'll be many people in that category who are also vintage porn fans. Even if Distribpix put out a 4K release, in the event it made any money it would probably still be selling significantly fewer units than Blu or DVD with similar or reduced profit margins. And that's if it does well. If it doesn't, it'd be a huge chunk of money down the drain.

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