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    Oily Maniac
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  • Oily Maniac
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    Severin confirmed they are now shipping international orders FedEx now.

    Received Four Flies, which was shipped the lowest tier international USPS offers. The packaging was packing peanuts. The limited "slipcase" was not shrink wrapped or wrapped in any kind of protective plastic or bubble wrap.

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  • Derrick King
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    A French release is supposedly happening in the first quarter of 2023. I assume it will not have English subs for the Italian track nor for the portions of the track that weren't dubbed into English.

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  • fatboyslim142
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    Mine finaly entered the US postal system yesterday.

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  • BW Haggar
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    Yep, likewise - mine has now shipped, and the use of Fed Ex is reassuring. Perhaps not quite so much so as to justify the initial postage charge, but I think we've been over that, and thankfully I don't feel an overwhelming need to watch 'Blood For Dracula' during the xmas holidays, so we're all good.

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  • agent999
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    Originally posted by BW Haggar View Post

    Well at the moment, they certainly seem to be discouraging overseas orders by not getting 'round to posting them a month after I laid down my $45 postage, mumble grumble.

    Seriously though, I suspect you're right and I likewise don't blame them; international shipping is such a never-ending nightmare for retailers, I suspect I'd be taking the "take it or leave it" approach in their position too.

    Vinegar Syndrome's fast & affordable shipping increasingly seems more like some weird miracle we foreigners should take advantage of whilst we can, than anything that could be considered the norm.... although having said that, Mondo Macabro's shipping also remains reasonably priced, reliable and bullshit-free, so it's clearly still possible to keep it together, even at a smaller scale.

    Until recently, I'd have put Severin in the same category, meaning I could still rely on ordering direct from the three US companies I regularly buy stuff from... but after my current order with them is done with, I might move from a "wait until stuff is on sale and buy in bulk" model to a "buy must-have releases at full price from UK re-sellers and ignore the rest" one; we'll see.
    My Black Friday order has been shipped (or they created a label at least) and it's via FedEx. Estimated for Thursday 29th so they've changed shippers to the same as Vinegar Syndrome, albeit they're charging more than them.

    Yeah, I caved in.

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  • Oily Maniac
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    Originally posted by Toyboy View Post

    A "Large Envelope/Flat" to Chigasaki is $21.25 so they're using First Class International - bottom of the barrel. I saw the pics of the package they used to ship that to you and they should have at the very least gone with the "Package/Thick Envelope" option under First Class and added more support. However, if the resulting package is too thick it would necessitate Priority which would be $55.91. They went the wing & a prayer route.
    Error 4444 went the "wing & didn't even care" route. But I'll stay on topic

    Originally posted by Toyboy View Post

    If they're charging $88 that appears to me then that they're using Priority Express and I'd wager the reasoning behind that is the less time a package is in transit the less time it has to get lost or damaged. Most likely Severin's logic is that if they offered non-Priority options, they'd be stuck having to replace items that the post office destroys. Along with that, and I don't blame them at all, they are probably secretly trying to discourage overseas orders.
    To be clear, Four Flies was $88 shipped, so approximately $35 for postage. Part of me sympathizes with Severin and crowd funded funny book artistes discouraging overseas orders, but shipping them out first would be an appreciated concession. Vinegar Syndrome uses Fedex and likely has a business account with discounted pricing. Packages lost and mangled by USPS, and foreign equivalents, are unfortunately the cost of doing business with them. They're the villains here, this situation sucks.

    It's a white knuckle ride tracking a package until it lands in the hands of the hyper competent Japan Post. The last USPS update for Four Flies was 3 days ago in LA. As someone who lusted after Japanese Argento laserdiscs back in the day, now that I live in Japan having to order Four Flies from the States is cruel but humorous.


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  • Darcy Parker
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    Originally posted by BW Haggar View Post

    Well at the moment, they certainly seem to be discouraging overseas orders by not getting 'round to posting them a month after I laid down my $45 postage, mumble grumble.

    Seriously though, I suspect you're right and I likewise don't blame them; international shipping is such a never-ending nightmare for retailers, I suspect I'd be taking the "take it or leave it" approach in their position too.

    Vinegar Syndrome's fast & affordable shipping increasingly seems more like some weird miracle we foreigners should take advantage of whilst we can, than anything that could be considered the norm.... although having said that, Mondo Macabro's shipping also remains reasonably priced, reliable and bullshit-free, so it's clearly still possible to keep it together, even at a smaller scale.

    Until recently, I'd have put Severin in the same category, meaning I could still rely on ordering direct from the three US companies I regularly buy stuff from... but after my current order with them is done with, I might move from a "wait until stuff is on sale and buy in bulk" model to a "buy must-have releases at full price from UK re-sellers and ignore the rest" one; we'll see.
    It might be worth it to use a remailing company for Severin orders if things are getting that bad.

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  • BW Haggar
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    Originally posted by Toyboy View Post
    Along with that, and I don't blame them at all, they are probably secretly trying to discourage overseas orders.
    Well at the moment, they certainly seem to be discouraging overseas orders by not getting 'round to posting them a month after I laid down my $45 postage, mumble grumble.

    Seriously though, I suspect you're right and I likewise don't blame them; international shipping is such a never-ending nightmare for retailers, I suspect I'd be taking the "take it or leave it" approach in their position too.

    Vinegar Syndrome's fast & affordable shipping increasingly seems more like some weird miracle we foreigners should take advantage of whilst we can, than anything that could be considered the norm.... although having said that, Mondo Macabro's shipping also remains reasonably priced, reliable and bullshit-free, so it's clearly still possible to keep it together, even at a smaller scale.

    Until recently, I'd have put Severin in the same category, meaning I could still rely on ordering direct from the three US companies I regularly buy stuff from... but after my current order with them is done with, I might move from a "wait until stuff is on sale and buy in bulk" model to a "buy must-have releases at full price from UK re-sellers and ignore the rest" one; we'll see.

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  • Toyboy
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    Originally posted by Oily Maniac View Post
    Error 4444 ships USPS and charged roughly $22 for a single disc, postcards, etc. plus a folded poster.
    A "Large Envelope/Flat" to Chigasaki is $21.25 so they're using First Class International - bottom of the barrel. I saw the pics of the package they used to ship that to you and they should have at the very least gone with the "Package/Thick Envelope" option under First Class and added more support. However, if the resulting package is too thick it would necessitate Priority which would be $55.91. They went the wing & a prayer route.

    Severin has been doing this a lot longer than Error 4444 so my guess is that they don't even bother offering First Class since chances are the package will be mangled along the way and customers will demand a replacement, and/or it will take a very long time to get to customers and result in constant "Hey, where's my order?" emails. I can tell by the tone of Severin's social media posts regarding shipping that they're at the "Take it or Leave it" phase when it comes to international.

    If they're charging $88 that appears to me then that they're using Priority Express and I'd wager the reasoning behind that is the less time a package is in transit the less time it has to get lost or damaged. Most likely Severin's logic is that if they offered non-Priority options, they'd be stuck having to replace items that the post office destroys. Along with that, and I don't blame them at all, they are probably secretly trying to discourage overseas orders.
    Toyboy
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    Last edited by Toyboy; 12-18-2022, 09:26 PM.

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  • Oily Maniac
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    The total for Four Flies shipped USPS to Japan was $88USD & change. When adding a single disc title in an attempt to justify the shipping costs, the fee ballooned to over $40. Diabolik DVD also uses USPS with similar pricing. Error 4444 ships USPS and charged roughly $22 for a single disc, postcards, etc. plus a folded poster. Last I checked Vinegar Syndrome charges $17 for FedEx International. When ordering from UK based stores like Arrow & Zavvi JP the flat shipping fee is approx $10-15USD. The Tenebre & Phenomena UHD boxes were roughly $60USD SHIPPED from the UK to Japan.

    While I can kinda write the shipping cost off as a toxic mix of the awful USPS & frustrated retailers, what really angers me is the reports the "Exclusive Slipcase" & accompanying pic of a thick package is a ruse, as it's really just a slipcover. Yes, times are tough, but for $55 a proper box are in order. Even if Severin releases Inferno, Dellamorte Dellamore or Stage Fright, I'll likely buy the UK releases for spite & shipping costs. Four Flies is on my Bucket List(RIP Banana Man) but the number of titles that can be used to exploit my FOMO, like my disposable income, is low.



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  • Adrian Jones
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    I put in an initial order and got the shock of my life when i got to the check out and got a $70 tax bill plus $25 shipping + duties, so i stripped back to the essentials. Now i know there are new tax rules in Europe and the UK despite Brexit BS saying we make our own laws, they were more than happy to sign up to this sh*te.....but oddly less keen on the Europe wide anti-tax avoidance measures that affect the very rich, anyway i digress.

    Diabolik recently implemented the IOSS registration which means you pay the tax upfront, mind you it didn't stop me getting an additional £50 charge from Royal Mail when the package arrived in the UK, Diabolik were cool about it and refunded the tax i had paid at their end.

    I have asked Severin several times on Facebook if they are IOSS registered, and if not where is this tax charge going? No response so far and if customers experience the same as what happened to me i don't think they will be very popular.

    IOSS (europa.eu)

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    Last edited by Adrian Jones; 11-27-2022, 05:36 PM.

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  • Darcy Parker
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    Of all the years for Black Friday to fall between my paydays! Fuck!

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  • Derrick King
    Waterfall Puncher

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    A head's up, Severin's Andrew Furtado said that there are no plans for a standard release of Four Flies. Now, ordinarily I'd take that with a grain of salt (i.e. the multiple times that Synapse has lied about no standard edition of titles they released in as overpriced steelbooks,) but Severin, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't released standard editions of titles they sold as Black Friday exclusives (although, some of these have popped back up on the site during other sales.)

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  • agent999
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    It would be a shame if Severin wanted to discourage international orders. I've been buying David's releases since his UK label Exploited started putting out VHS tapes in the late 90s. They're probably the US label I buy the most of these days, and they seem to have put those compression issues behind them. I guess the ultimate villain are the couriers who are putting up prices and delivering a worse service. I checked UK shipping on a recent 3 disc release (The Changeling UHD) between Severin and Diabolik, and Severin were $7.71 higher. They must have much higher staff costs than Diabolik, but even so that seems excessive to me.

    Severin did put out a few titles in both the UKand US (predating Arrow, 88 and Powerhouse etc.), I wish they'd do it more (88 seem to be their partner of choice these days). I guess international licencing and BBFC fees put a stop to that.

    At the end of the day, it's only going to get harder and more expensive importing cool shit these days.

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  • Toyboy
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    It could be that Severin doesn't care to deal with it at all and wants to discourage international orders. I can't say for sure and probably shouldn't speculate about their business practices, but as someone who has had to deal with people expecting that I somehow have a cure-all for the rates that are set by the shippers I tend to err on the side of the companies that are dealing with the nightmare of shipping in the 21st century. It's a thin line when it comes to weight. If my 2 lb book was 1 lb and 15 oz it would be almost half the cost. If that bundle weighs over 2 lbs then $45 international is normal and they're not likely to be charging for supplies or handling, and when they're shipping to certain parts of the world such as Australia or New Zealand they're probably eating a buck or two...or five.
    Toyboy
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    Last edited by Toyboy; 11-27-2022, 01:17 PM.

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