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Was it the animal violence or the nihilistic tone that did it?
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Maybe it had been built up too much in your mind first.Originally posted by Dom D View Post
Watch FEROX then re-watch HOLOCAUST. You will see why most people prefer HOLOCAUST. Its a veritable high brow masterpiece in comparison with its biting commentary on western civilization.
Also try not to pay too much attention to the animal stuff. Yes it was wrong but it was also a long time ago kind of like the legal ivory trade.Comment
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I can absolutely understand not liking Cannibal Holocaust. It's a very polarizing and provocative film. One of my favourite Italian genre movies, but it's also one of those films (like for instance N.Y. Ripper, I Spit on Your Grave and Nekromantik) I don't talk a lot about liking with 'normal' people, as to not be labeled a psycho. I got a real eye opener a few years ago when I mentioned to a collegue that I think The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is a masterpiece, and he gave me a look as if I just confessed to killing a woman. You tend to forget how strong and offensive many of these films are to the general public when you've seen all kinds of strange and twisted stuff like we have.Comment
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Yeah its like your own secret perversion^_^Originally posted by enandalusiskhund View Post
Its the same with sexploitation and porno stuff too, I mean, you cant really be proud of liking the Schoolgirl Report series even though technically it should be called College Girl Report. Or how about Schoolgirls in Chains. Even having Emanuelle films on your shelf will cause some people to raise eyebrows and or snigger.Comment
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I'm nervous for the same reason for some upcoming Synapse releases I really want. Zoom Up: Rape Site and especially White Rose Campus: Then Everybody Gets Raped will really stick out like sore thumbs on the shelf. Maybe I'll have to hide them from the Mrs. even, like a 13 year old hides his dirty magazines from his parents.Comment
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That might be worse though , if your stash ever got found. Might be better to split them up and pepper them amongst less controversial stuff, that way the eye is not offended by a collection of "perverted" rape-titled movies.
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For the record I'm well versed in the darker corners of cinema. I wasn't shocked by this film. I just thought it was fucking bullshit. Documentarians meet this supposedly dangerous and savage tribe and then start rounding the natives into a straw hut which they then set on fire and burn them to death while they rave on about how this is going to win themselves an Oscar. There are so many levels on which that is shit storytelling that there are no words. I could run them through but I think everyone gets them instinctively. And that's just five minutes of this nonsense.
This film is like a three year sticking his finger up his nose at dinner to shock the grown ups. Vaguely amusing but really not worth your time. By while there's a lot of lot of films on this level (a bunch I even like) the animal violence means you can't enjoy this as mindless fun made by meatheads as you usually would with something like this. You just can't even laugh at it."Never let the fact that they are doing it wrong stop you from doing it right." Hyman Mandell.Comment
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Did you get that that scene amongst others is supposed to be a (not so subtle) critique of the mondo movie makers of that time ?Comment
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That's actually my problem with the film. I would appreciate it more if it would stand as the crass exploitation that it is without the pretentious (and completely insincere) moralizing.Comment
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I think maybe Deodato had good intentions when he made this movie.....He always talks about his motivations that made him make it...
It may be a little heavy handed at times...but it was pretty much a product of its time...and I feel that watching it now in 2015 for the first time would not recreate the same feelings that people had watching before the onset of the internet where this kind of thing is pretty tame....
Also, if you want a movie that wears its crass exploitation on its sleeve you should be watching CANNIBAL FEROX....Comment
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I understand that you didn't care for it but it seems like maybe you were expecting too much from it and it played against your appreciation?Originally posted by Dom D View Post
Also, the film makes it fairly clear that the first tribe (The Yanomomo or Tree People) are a mostly docile tribe. The 2nd tribe the filmmakers come across (The Shamitari) are the violent tribe constantly attacking the Yanomomo. The Shamitari are the one's that kill the filmmakers. Plus the film acknowledges that several reels that were recovered had to be thrown out so we're left ot our own conclusions as to how the filmmakers subdued the Shamitari's. I know I misspelled the tribe's names but I can't check IMDB right now.
I don't think the film is juvenile at all, if you think it is then you might want to check out the other Italo Cannibal flicks.
It was obviously taking the piss out of the moralizing done in the media and in Mondo movies. The Professor Monroe character never comes off as insincere (naive maybe) but definitely not insincere.Originally posted by Headless Body View PostLast edited by Alex K.; 11-09-2015, 11:19 AM."Ah! By god's balls what licentiousness!"
Marquis de Sade, The 120 Days of Sodom.Comment
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c'mon there's gotta be something you liked! what about the amazing riz ortolani score?!Originally posted by Dom D View Post
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If you don't appreciate this score you are broken.Originally posted by killer must kill again View Postc'mon there's gotta be something you liked! what about the amazing riz ortolani score?!
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Yes, that theme seemed to be heavily influenced by Michael Holm's Mark of the Devil though..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngIdaAPxkqoLast edited by Bogart; 11-09-2015, 12:13 PM.Comment
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